In “Marjorie Prime” the concept is very interesting, imagine being able to have a replication of a deceased partner? A digital reboot clone of Marjorie’s deceased husband Walter. He learns to become more human by interacting with humans. He’s the Walter who Marjorie knew when she was the younger woman being courted, and eventually proposed to. It is hard for her daughter to understand the memory of him because she was so young. The Primes learn and improve as the people they’re designed for get steadily worse. Marjorie herself says as much to Walter before she dies, complaining, “You said I’d get better, but you’re the one getting better.” Hologram Walter is there for Marjorie to help her remember her past. As a hard reminder also of Alzheimer’s disease and affecting memory. During the first hour and 38 minutes of the movie there is a slow and sad conversations involving painful memories of the death of their first child. Subjective memory is one’s perceived memory ability, independent of objective standards or performance. Subjective memory reflects one’s perception about his or her personal memory functioning. As we learned about this in lecture it changes up the theory a bit. How can she know if she cannot remember? She may have episodes of Episodic memory of remembering bits and pieces. Maybe it is better because the hologram is having her remember the good times and not when the marriage began to fall apart. The good ole days.
In Star Trek “Measure of man” similar to Marjorie Prime where these prototype’s that are not actually living and breathing.. are they capable of the same human capacities? Do they have memory. In one scene Captain Louvois exclaims” It sits there looking at me; and I don’t know what it is. This case has dealt with metaphysics – with questions best left to saints and philosophers. I am neither competent nor qualified to answer those. But I’ve got to make a ruling, to try to speak to the future. Is Data a machine? Yes. Is he the property of Starfleet? No. We have all been dancing around the basic issue: does Data have a soul?”
The question is will this happen in our future? It is a possibility there can be prototypes of living deceased relatives but they will not be able to have what humans do and those are emotions and memories.
While we watched inside out Riley remembered a happy memory but realized there was sadness attached. We can feel a happy part of the memory and then it makes us feel differently after when we remember it differently. As we spoke about in lecture When we recall a memory, we retrieve specific details about it: where, when, with whom. But we often also experience a vivid feeling of remembering the event, sometimes almost reliving it. Memory researchers call these processes objective and subjective memory. You remember the joy later on and it can change over time. How you remember something can be influenced! I thought it was interesting in lecture how we spoke about the Mandela affect. I had done further research and false memory occurs when people incorrectly remember the same thing. Many people had thought Nelson Mandela died in prison in the 1980’s. However he passed in the early 2000’s. Widespread incorrect information can influence individual memories! crazy! so for the longest time everyone knew the saying in star wars as “Luke, I am your father.” It is actually “No, I am your father.” I actually took a poll with friends and ALL of them thought the incorrect saying was actually in the movie! *mind blown*.
Our memories are changing as we get older! what we remember as a child is different as we age! I remember less details the older I am getting from what I remembered in my 20’s. My emotions feel differently with certain situations tied to the memories! Just like Riley! To this day it is important that I write out my shopping list or I will not remember what I need at the grocery store. Human beings are so interesting, aren’t we?
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Hi Elizabeth,
I am glad that you are still thinking about Inside Out and how memory is represented there. While the representation of memory in that film is not entirely in keeping with the science (we do not replay memories like little movies in our heads), the connection between memory and emotion is super important. As you note, how we feel about memories can change as we get older and as our understanding and perspective of them changes.
I also really like that you brought up the Mandela Effect! And the results of your informal survey are very telling. Part of the reason why this effect is so powerful is because of the ways that memories are constructed and repeated. I also can *hear* Dark Vader saying “Luke, I am your father” (even though at this point, I know that’s not actually what he says). This is because I am remembering not just the film, but all of the times that I have heard it incorrectly, which is integrated into my memory of the film. We might think about how the film Marjorie Prime demonstrates a Mandela affect in miniature. Consider the story of adopting Toni Two. We hear the story repeated throughout the film, and each time we are told that Tess picked out Toni Two. Even she believes it. But at the end of the movie, we learn that it was actually Damien who picked out Toni Two. The family (and their primes) had been collectively misremembering it.
Jessica Hautsch